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LB 5 Clipboard history support

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:02 am
by sriggins
First off: WOOT! This version looks *awesome*

ok now the feedback :)

I was using PHB Pasteboard, but I love that you have clipboard history support! I am finding it confusing though, to what seem like bugs.

* I set my shortcut for show history to command-option-v

When I press the shortcut, the history list pops down but as soon as I release the keys, it goes away and the top selection is pasted.

I found this counter intuitive, because and now I just released I bound it to select from history, not show history :)

ok back to loving LB 5........

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:31 am
by norbert
Be aware that Command-Option-V is the standard Mac OS X shortcut for "Paste Style".

It's pretty tricky to find a shortcut that's easy to access but doesn't conflict with shortcuts of other applications.

If you're using the "Select from history" command more often, you will probably prefer a shortcut with only one modifier key, since it's more efficient to type.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:08 am
by sriggins
I've been using command-option-V for 2 years with PHT, so I am fairly comfortable with it. I rarely paste with style, so when I do, I use the menu.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:07 am
by sjk
norbert wrote:It's pretty tricky to find a shortcut that's easy to access but doesn't conflict with shortcuts of other applications.

That's an understatement. From Daring Fireball: Losers, Weepers, my favorite shortcut snafu article:

If Apple wants to provide a useful, standard, system-wide human interface for user-customizable keyboard shortcuts — and I think they should — they need to provide a system-wide mechanism for applications to register all of their menu key shortcuts. It would mean that this hypothetical new menu key customization feature would only be available for applications which explicitly support it, but there’s simply no other way it can be done well.

Five years later and Apple still hasn't considered this higher priority while it's just getting worse. :(

Note:

Don't try using Escape as a modifier (as I foolishly did) to cancel Select from history auto activation or you can end up accidentally launching Front Row or the Force Quit dialog (at least). That confused me at first because the Command-Escape Hide and Show Front Row shortcut was disabled on one of my systems (for some unknown reason) but not the other.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:12 am
by sjk
sriggins wrote:I rarely paste with style

Using TextEdit as a reference, I think you're confusing Format > Front > Paste Style [Option-Command-V] with Edit > Paste and Match Style [Option-Shift-Command-V].

Pasting a style != pasting with style. :)

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:19 am
by sriggins
sjk wrote:
sriggins wrote:I rarely paste with style

Using TextEdit as a reference, I think you're confusing Format > Front > Paste Style [Option-Command-V] with Edit > Paste and Match Style [Option-Shift-Command-V].

Pasting a style != pasting with style. :)


No, I meant the edit menu item, which is command-option-shift-V it appears in Text Edit.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:50 am
by sjk
sriggins wrote:No, I meant the edit menu item, which is command-option-shift-V it appears in Text Edit.

Right, which isn't the Option-Shift-V Paste Style shortcut that Norbert mentioned and you're stealing for LB's Show clipboard history.