Trying Launch Bar, need equivalent of QS ", trick"

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Post by ludwigschubert » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:51 am

Well, that's still not exactly working.
For example, you can't send those several items on your clipboard to a specific action at the same time, can you?
And you need ClipMerge for it. (Which would be OK, I guess)

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Post by Dennis » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:56 am

Well, you can at least use Command-A to select all the items in a results list now. It sends them all to the bars as a single grouping that can then be passed on with instant-send.

This is nice, but what would be even better is the ability to select multiple, non-contiguous items, perhaps even from the result sets of different searches.

Using the new clipboard history is an interesting idea. But you'd still need some way to make multiple selections within it otherwise you're stuck using one item or all items.

-Dennis

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Post by FredSmith » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:58 am

ludwigschubert wrote:Well, that's still not exactly working.
For example, you can't send those several items on your clipboard to a specific action at the same time, can you?
And you need ClipMerge for it. (Which would be OK, I guess)


Yep. You're right.

Not quite there yet.

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Post by FredSmith » Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:10 am

Dennis wrote:Well, you can at least use Command-A to select all the items in a results list now. It sends them all to the bars as a single grouping that can then be passed on with instant-send.

This is nice, but what would be even better is the ability to select multiple, non-contiguous items, perhaps even from the result sets of different searches.

Using the new clipboard history is an interesting idea. But you'd still need some way to make multiple selections within it otherwise you're stuck using one item or all items.

-Dennis


Good point.

Okay, so you have clipboard full of stuff that you have found, but no way to execute a single command to operate on them, and then clear the clipboard.

The other problem is that the clipboard may be full of other stuff that may not be valid in the current context. What if the clipboard contains snippets of text as well as files? How would LB handle at attempt to launch a snippet of text?

I think this highlights the difference between LB and QS. An operation in LB is carried out in one hit; it does not assume that a current command is linked to a previous one.

Mmmmm

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Post by Jono » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:41 pm

Really wish we had the 'comma trick', or some sort of alternative in LaunchBar.

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Post by Nik » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:15 pm

This CAN be done...

Enable clip-merge in LaunchBar's prefs, so CMD+C,CMD+C appends to the clipboard.

Select your first file, CMD+C

Select your second file, CMD+C, CMD+C

Select your third...nth file, CMD+C, CMD+C

CMD+V (paste)

Choose "Select in Launchbar" (or hit F1)

Now act on the multiple files.

A few more keystrokes than the QuickSilver method, but pretty intuitive, especially if you're used to clip merge. The only step I'd really like to get rid of is the "Select in LaunchBar" choice, since that should be the default.

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Post by sjk » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:00 pm

Thanks for that tip, Nik. I haven't explored LB5's clipboard features much yet, partly because already using PTHPasteboard makes it easier to procrastinate.

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Post by Dennis » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:02 pm

Nik wrote:Select your first file, CMD+C

Select your second file, CMD+C, CMD+C

Select your third...nth file, CMD+C, CMD+C

CMD+V (paste)

Choose "Select in Launchbar" (or hit F1)

Now act on the multiple files.

A few more keystrokes than the QuickSilver method, but pretty intuitive, especially if you're used to clip merge. The only step I'd really like to get rid of is the "Select in LaunchBar" choice, since that should be the default.


This is a clever idea. I like it.

Once you have your multiple items on the clipboard, a minor variation might be to hit Command-K instead of Command-V. It'll switch you to the clipboard history with your most recent, multi-file clipboard selected.

This way you don't have choose "Select in Launchbar" (or hit F1). Of course, you'll need to hit Tab instead to send the items to an action which is maybe a little easier.

Note that there's currently a bug that prevents you from sending clipboards with multiple items with the Tab key (only works on clipboards with single items). I think Objective Development has confirmed this bug and plans to fix it. In the mean time, you'd have to hit Right Arrow to view the individual items in the grouping and then hit Command-A and Tab to send all of them to an action. Those extra steps probably make Nik's original suggestion the better option for now.

-Dennis

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Post by factoryjoe » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:26 am

Jono wrote:Really wish we had the 'comma trick', or some sort of alternative in LaunchBar.

+1 to this suggestion. I'm a long time QuickSilver user trying out the LaunchBar beta and I've been satisfied so far in many respects, but miss the "comma delimited selection" functionality of QuickSilver somethin' fierce.

Being able to select multiple files from different folders and then tab to archive them and then tab from the resulting zip file to email them was a common task that was painless in QuickSilver. Doing this in LaunchBar seems counter-intuitive, even with the ClipMerge approach.

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Post by FredSmith » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:41 am

factoryjoe wrote:Being able to select multiple files from different folders and then tab to archive them and then tab from the resulting zip file to email them was a common task that was painless in QuickSilver. Doing this in LaunchBar seems counter-intuitive, even with the ClipMerge approach.


+1

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Post by Nik » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:01 am

In the latest beta (beta 2), clip merge is working reliably, and you can tab-off from the selection.

Also, in the latest version, there's a "zip" action that does exactly what you want except that it only works on a single file at a time. So it can't zip up all your files into a bundle. Since actions are just scripts, that should be modifiable to work on the whole batch. It's just a ten line or so shell script (you can find it within the Launchbar app bundle) that calls "ditto." It's just set to only handle a single file, and to crap out if it gets more than one.
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Post by FredSmith » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:15 am

Nik wrote:In the latest beta (beta 2), clip merge is working reliably, and you can tab-off from the selection.

Also, in the latest version, there's a "zip" action that does exactly what you want except that it only works on a single file at a time. So it can't zip up all your files into a bundle. Since actions are just scripts, that should be modifiable to work on the whole batch.


Good news for the Apple Scripters I guess; but a little odd that zip doesn't work on a group of files. I would have thought that zipping a file bundles is at least as common as zipping a single file.

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Post by Jono » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:48 am

I just hope that a proper & simple execution of selecting multiple items is added to LaunchBar, rather than clunky workarounds.

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Post by beejay » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:03 pm

FredSmith wrote:Good news for the Apple Scripters I guess; but a little odd that zip doesn't work on a group of files.


This has been submitted and is a known issue - hopefully it should be taken care of soon.

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Post by knight777 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:59 pm

Original thread starter here. I saw the Launchbar 5 beta and decided to check it out as I promised. I have my $20 bucks all ready but there is still no comma trick.

4+ years since Quicksilver introduced this handy concept to the application launcher genre and not a one has implemented it (that I've found at least).

If you search the web for "comma trick" you'll find all sorts of requests for just about every application launcher asking for its equivalent and nobody has done it.

Maybe its just not as important as I think it is or maybe its really hard to implement. Whatever the case, I guess I'm sticking with Quicksilver for as long as it runs on my Mac or an app launcher in active development adds this feature.

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