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		<author><name><![CDATA[christian]]></name></author>
		<updated>2008-11-04T12:17:40+02:00</updated>

		<published>2008-11-04T12:17:40+02:00</published>
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I don't think using the comparator brings an advantage. Signals are usually good enough for direct detection by input ports.<br /><br />Checking CRC during reception is probably possible at 18 MHz. You need a 256 byte CRC table for that.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forums.obdev.at/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8">christian</a> — Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:17 pm</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[apollononnno]]></name></author>
		<updated>2008-10-31T12:18:24+02:00</updated>

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Only one transistor worked, and it omitted with and a standard voltage was made <br />resistance division. <br />A rough voltage is not problem having though the voltage is just good in &quot;3.3/2+0.7&quot; <br />either. <br />The clamp voltage is decided by the voltage of LED. <br /><br />The other is tried in blue LED3.3V, and there seem to be neither <br />Zenardaiord nor inferiority. <br />The calculation and resistance are &quot;5V side 27kohm&quot;, and &quot;GND side 24<br />kohm. &quot;<br /><img src="http://den-nekonoko.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_615/den-nekonoko/WS000823.JPG" class="postimage" alt="Image" /><br />Both tropism conversion I convert a USB level into 5v, and to convert the opposite direction into a USB level. <br />I simplified it with a transistor as a digital transistor a little. <br />I added a transistor to blue light-emitting diode (UB1112H) and made a characteristic steep. &#65288;It is a voltage source of 2.55v&#65289;It is inspection of both tropism. <br />I work by one circuit, but can distinguish a signal of &quot;D+D-&quot; each if LED 2 has a circuit.<br /><img src="http://den-nekonoko.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_615/den-nekonoko/WS000826.JPG" class="postimage" alt="Image" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forums.obdev.at/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1231">apollononnno</a> — Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:18 pm</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[bearing]]></name></author>
		<updated>2008-10-30T19:28:00+02:00</updated>

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It may not be fast enough. According to the data sheet the typical propagation delay is 500 ns with VCC 5 V and 750 ns with VCC 2.7V. The bit time of the 1.5 Mbit/s signal is 667 ns.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forums.obdev.at/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1443">bearing</a> — Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:28 pm</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[henni]]></name></author>
		<updated>2008-10-30T15:49:23+02:00</updated>

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What about using the built-in analog comparator of ATtiny and ATmega controllers for detecting <em class="text-italics">true</em> differential signals on D+ and D- wires?<br />Of course, this will introduce using additional cycles for detecting single-ended states (so, 12 MHz is not sufficient) and another interrupt pin (or the new edge-interrupt on ATmegaX8) for detecting SOF pulses.<br />This approach should enhance USB standard compliance.<br /><br />Note that the analog comparator interrupt can be used for detecting the start of transmission, same as D+ routed to INT0 in earlier designs.<br /><br />What clock frequency is necessary to check the CRC while receiving?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://forums.obdev.at/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1319">henni</a> — Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:49 pm</p><hr />
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